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SKYRIM — Another Player Rant

Posted by JungleBoot on July 7, 2012

All right.  All right.  Nothing new here.  It’s just another player rant.  You have the choice to not read it.  But, I have a few things I would like to get off my chest.  I’m willing to bet I’m not alone in these observations.


An automatic quests is one given to you whether you want it or not.  This happens very early in the game and exists in many locations.  As soon as you exit Helgen, you are given a quest to speak to either Alvor or Gerdur.  I understand it’s part of the main quest.  That isn’t the point.  It shouldn’t happen.  But, it does.  Todd Howard, Game Director at Bethesda Game Studios, stated that Bethesda employees worked really hard on that moment during his keynote speech at the DICE 2012 event.  He emphasized the importance of that moment.  “… You can go do whatever you want.  It’s gonna be all fine .. ”  But, that’s not the truth.  What if you don’t want to follow Ralof or Hadvar into Riverwood?  What if you want to head off towards Falkreath?  You can.  There is nothing stopping you.  You can head in any direction.  So, I have to ask.  Was it necessary to assign that initial quest?

I’ll stipulate that someone has to point the character in the right direction.  But, does it really have to be Ralof or Hadvar?  Let’s role play a little.  The character has just narrowly escaped death at the hands of the Legion and survived the attack of a dragon that appears out of nowhere.  Regardless of who you follow, you experience the ” … step out moment … ” (Todd Howard’s words).  In that moment, you see the dragon heading east towards Riverwood and  Hadvar or Ralof basically state the same thing.  “We should split up.  But, ….”  starting the Before the storm quest.  If you decide to follow either one into Riverwood, you are gifted with another quest — join the legion or join the stormcloaks.  Really??  The dragon is your problem.  I’m heading west.  That is a valid choice.  You can literally avoid the main quest 100 percent.  There is nothing anywhere that demands you do it.  However, avoiding the main quest prevents dragons from appearing.  Which also prevents you from becoming this savior called Dovahkin.  So, how do they get you to play the main quest? They just give it to you during that step-out moment.  They sort of rely on the mentality that views a task list as something that must be done.  Here’s a task.  Go do it.

Brynjoff is another example of this automatic quest system.  Attempt to use a merchant in Riften without drawing the attention of Brynjoff.  It’s possible.  But, you have to do a lot of maneuvering to accomplish it.  What if you don’t care about joining the Thieves guild?  Shouldn’t I be the one to make first contact?  Shouldn’t it be up to the player whether or not that first conversation takes place?  So, If I can really do whatever I want, why does Bethesda  feel the constant need to tell me what to do?  I’ll admit you can’t play a game of this size without some sort of guide.  But, the gentle nudges should come when I speak to the right person — not because I stepped into a trigger zone.


Smack a guard within the walls of Whiterun and there will be a bounty placed on you for 40 gold.  I can live with that and it’s as it should be.  Attacking a prisoner escort detail between Whiterun and Rorikstead out of sight of the watch towers, should not result in a bounty.  How is this possible?  Who is reporting the crime?  It’s just you, three Legion soldiers, and the escorted prisoner.  Yet, somehow the crime is “magically” reported.  If I’m to believe everything said during Todd Howard’s keynote speech at DICE 2012, the 100 employees, or more, were all playing the game ” … tons .. ” prior to launch to polish the game.  You mean to tell me none of those employees noticed this or any of the other multitude of problems this product shipped with?  I don’t buy it.  This may seem like a non-issue.  I promise you it’s the opposite.  It is an issue.  It means Bethesda made some “business” decisions to ignore minor and major issues in order to ship on-time.  Because at some point, correcting any problems means delaying product release.


What constitutes a natural encounter?  It describes any event that takes place out in the game world away from populated locations or “staged” events.   Fix an image of a herd of horses in your mind.  How do they behave?  Where do they go?  Do they remain firmly within the bound of a predefined space or do they roam free?  In my mind, they roam free.  This is something the folks over at Rockstar got right with Red Dead Redemption.  The horses behave in a natural way.  They roam.  They aren’t necessarily bound.  Do they have total freedom?  No.  But, the space they occupy is large enough to allow more freedom of movement and random behavior.  This makes approaching a herd feel more natural — a natural encounter.

Skyrim has it’s share of “natural” encounters with wildlife — particularly deer and elk.  What is missing are natural encounters with the various creatures in the game.  Isn’t it possible that Draugrs emerge from dungeons at night and roam the surrounding areas?  I bring this up because an ongoing debate exists over fast travel.  Those against fast travel claims that you “miss” out some and that it “breaks” immersion.  If I knew I could have a “natural encounter”,  I might consider traveling by foot or horse more.  Otherwise, it’s fast travel.  Skyrim has a huge game world and a lot of it is just empty.


There  is an absolute lack of urgency to undertake the main quest.  Outside of the initial attack on Helgen, no other dragons appear until you confront the one near Whiterun.  You never feel the need to go there.  The only real reason is to gain access to shouts — a form of magic.  Shouts provide access to some spells in a different manner.  They also provide access to some unique spells.  But, they’re not required to play the game.  You can wander and wander and wander all day long in Skyrim never accomplishing anything.  Dragons are suppose to be at the center.  The hero/heroine should feel compelled to fulfill their role.  They are the Dragonborne.  But, meh, I’ll go over here to Riften and hide out in the Theives Guild for a bit.  Better yet, I’ll just stay there forever.


Guilds are cool.  Their stories could be more in depth and better.  But, that isn’t what is really wrong.  It’s the complete lack of choices.  Not only that, your choices have no effect on whether or not you can join other guilds.  You join the Thieves Guild and The Companions still welcome you with open arms.  Aren’t the Companions suppose to be honorable fighters?  It makes sense that a Thief might join the Dark Brotherhood.  Those two go hand in hand.  So, why isn’t there an actual Fighters Guild to compliment the Companions.

The adventurer approaches a Companion traveling from Riverwood to Whiterun.

Adventurer:  May, I join you?

Companion:  I’m only going as far as Whiterun.

Adventurer:  No, may I join the Companions?

Companion:  Let me have a look at you.  You appear strong and stalwart enough.  How is your blade and shield work?  Show me.

The Companion engages the adventurer in a friendly duel.

Companion:  You need training and work.  Go speak to Theolen at the Fighter’s Guild.  Train hard.  Work hard.  When you’ve learned enough seek us out.

This is how I see the Companions.  Yes, they are nothing more than mercenaries.  However, they are an elite group and not just anyone should be able to join — especially a member of the Thieves Guild.  They prefer to kick in doors and face their foes head on.  They relish the challenge and would prefer a sword in the gut over a dagger in the back.  It should mean something to be a Companion.


The perk system is flawed.  It’s a good attempt at hiding numbers — just poorly executed.  How does the player become knowledgeable in smithing Elven armor, Dwarven armor, Orcish Armor, Daedric Armor, Ebony Armor,  and Glass Armor?  You’re not required to read a book or visit a master smith that has the knowledge.  So, how?  For that matter, how is it that anyone still knows dwarven techniques for smithing?  Haven’t they basically disappeared?  Learning a new technique could have been tied to an actual quest.  Go find this guy here and offer your services as their apprentice.  Make the player have to gather materials and actually smith X item under the tutelage of the master smith to gain the knowledge.    There are ways to make the search for knowledge and advance skills more compelling.  Doing something like this isn’t about technical skill.  It would be very easy to do.  It’s more about caring enough to make more aspects of a game interesting.


Basically, the whole process sucks.  Players on consoles have to “exploit, cheat, or glitch” their way to the character desired.  PC gamers just enter a few commands into the command console and they’re off playing the game.  It’s a huge disconnect.  By no means would I suggest removing console access from PC gamers.  I cringe at the thought.  The problem lies in the lack of replay value.  You read stories of individuals “role playing” different characters.  They must be playing a different game or playing on a PC with mods.  Every scripted action is the exact same every time.  It doesn’t change.  The companions will always be engaging a Giant as you make your way to Whiterun for the first time.  Hence, people soon turn to the internet looking for methods of training skills to 100 fast.  They can’t be bothered with leveling up.  They already know the perks they want.   Why not do away with the grind (leveling) and go ahead and award the 81 perk points?  After all, there are 251 perks spread out over 18 skills.  That is what drives gameplay — the individual builds.  In all honesty, Nobody who is gainfully employed or a full-time student has the time or inclination to grind out a character.  They just want to enjoy the game.  When did that become too much to ask for?  Nobody is suggesting Bethesda dumbs down the game.  Just get rid of the grind that people constantly look for ways to get past.

More to come .. . . . .


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